First off, this is going to be one L-O-N-G message, so grab some coffee!! Bob C, Mike Smith, Ed, Chris I. and all involved in Cyberawl - THANK YOU!! What a great time - can't wait for next year! Wink, wink - hint, hint! it could only be better if I was still there! [b]Friday [/b] My wife (2000 GT 'vert) and I (my 95 GT) met Shawn Donkin (91 LX coupe), Karlos Knox (96 Cobra on the bottle - mod board), Joe Beegle (Car 6 fan from Mod board, 96 Cobra), and Jodi (96 Viper with 300 shot of juice - wow) in Memphis for a caravan. That was fun. 2.5 hours later (if that!) we made it to Nashville, TN. We stopped at the Performance Garage for some dyno runs. Everyone seemed pleased with their numbers. The Viper made 450 ft-lbs and 400 hp to the wheels n/a with only a K&N and 3" exhaust - WOW. Then on the bottle, made another 200-225 hp and tq over those numbers. Impressive to say the least. [b]my dyno:[/b] I was a little disappointed. I don't have the graphs in front of me and they are emailing me the specific data points later this week. I made 390 ft-lbs and 305 hp to the wheels. I tried timing at 16, 15, and 14 degrees initial. From 16 to 14, I only lost 1.5 hp, but gained 1.5 ft-lbs. [i]More importantly [/i] was my A/F ratio. A nasty 13.3-13.4:1 to around 4000 rpm. A bit safer 12.8-12.9:1 from 4000-5000 and a nice safe 12.3-12.4:1 from 5000 on up. I took the first run to 6600 rpm! Their dyno doesn't data log the A/F but you can watch it change so #s are approximate. Iusually run 17-18* timing but withit that lean away from home, I didn't want to risk it. I also noticed some boost drop off. Now, before blaming the whipple, I think it is my restrictive inlet. Stock TB and 80mm MAF. Coincidentally to the A/F, I saw 7 psi to 4000, 6 psi from 4000-5000, and 5 psi from 5000 up. Still 5 psi when I stopped the run at 6600 so it WILL flow the air. I also have some belt slip compunding the problem. I'll be opening up the inlet once I address the fuel problem. (BTW - no pinging at all even running "lean".) TQ curve was very flat from 2200 to around 3800 and then gradually fell. No abrupt drop at all. HP curve rose quickly to the 300 ballpark near 4000 rpm. Styaed there until around 5600 where it slowly started to fall. By Still near 300 by almost 6000 rpm. By 6600 rpm, it was still barely falling. I've never seen a HP curve that flat! BTW - the engine sounded SWEET at 6600 rpm!! Stock ignition did fine too - curve was VERY smooth. Continued on to Bowling Green that night. Met up with Mark (qwkphkr) and his "crew", Jim Mills, Larry Turvy, ConradS-351, Jon Basham, Garret (89GTSTANG)and his wife, Cathy and probably others I am forgetting right now. Some, I met for the first time - great to put a face with a name and see the cars first hand! Also saw Ed Curtis, Bob Cosby, Mike Smith (of 13.0 stock 98 Cobra fame) and met the late Kirby Walser (LITEMUP302)'s family. They were selling the CB T-shirts and proceeds went to a scholarship in his name. They also completed his car and it was raced. Made it to the #3 spot in Open Comp Website shoot out - very touching to see it there! Tech'd in , shot the shi+ and went to dinner. [b]Saturday - the event[/b] The track didn't have any unleaded race gas so I put 2 gallons of 110 leaded in. (I was worried about being so lean). O2s are shot anyway. Proabably a mistake as I really didn't run very well that day. But the car stayed together fine. Cyberbrawl was my first time on slicks. After two crappy test and tune passes, Here are the rest: Qual 1) 1.848--5.420--8.329@85.39--10.821--12.917@108.18 Qual 2) 1.818--5.367--8.241@86.54--10.737--12.825@108.44 Qual 3) 1.776--5.328--missed 3rd and aborted the rest... Elim 1) 1.815--5.361--8.242@86.37--10.739--12.826@108.44 (win by 0.443) Elim 2) 1.777--5.352--8.263@85.23--10.761--12.859@107.66 (win by 0.89) Elim 3) 1.820--5.366-8.274@85.71--10.777--12.860@108.70 (lose by 0.181) Compare to my street tire times of: 1.931--5.410--8.243@87.20--10.670--12.709@110.90 I lost to a GN on a holeshot (I suck at a pro tree) I left first (slower car) he pulled by me in second, but I started pulling him in 3rd. By the 3-4 shift I was on his bumper and pulling hard. Got up to the middle of his door. He got out of it right in the mph traps, but just edged me. Oh well - it was a good race! Only diff at CB was Slicks and Skinnies on Welds (dropped 50 lbs of rotational weight off car) vs. 245/50/16 street tires and 14* timing vs. 17.5* and the fuel. Wether was cooler at cyberbrawl too. So somehow I was losing a lot of top end. I was experting 12.2-12.4 on teh slicks. Watching teh tape, I was spining the slicks a little in 1st and also granny shifting? WTF?! Don't know why. Also - my shift light broke until rnd 1 or 2 of elims, but by then I didn't trust it. So appapently I was short shifting a lot. Sounds like excuses - probably are, but oh well. BUT, I am very happy with a pair of 1.77 60's and a bunch of low 1.8s. That is on 8.5x26 ET drags on 15x8 ProStars with 12 psi. No subs, no control arms, just lowering springs and lakewood 50/50s. I'm sure I acn get into the low 1.7s and probably high 1.6s with some suspension work. Going to have TQ boxes welded very soon and subframes added. Maybe go ahead with a 6 pt. cage to be ready for the 11s once I find out where the power went. Regardless of the times and the dyno #s, I had a great time. [b] Sunday - SLEPT IN! [/b] Then a bunch of us went to the 'Vette Museum. Very nice. There was also a show going on that day so the place was crawling with Vettes. We got some interesting looks rolling in! After that half of us stopped in Nashville again and ate at the NASCAR Cafe. Really neat place - excellent food, too. Got home sunday evening. Interesting note - with 3.73s, running 80+ mph and a good # of 100+ blasts and carrying all the tools and supplies, I still got 22-23 mpg. Running REAL hard and steady speeds around 100, it got 20 mpg. I was impressed. [b]A big thanks to everyone involved with CyberBrawl[/b]. I had a great time, good people, new faces, good racing, etc. It had it all. Well done! BTW, The mustangs won 3 of 5 events. King Of the Internet Street Mustang/F-body Power Adder Maybe the third was Truck Open Comp?? Lost Website Shootout to the F bodies Lost Mustang/F-body N/A (Jimmc - we needed you there buddy!!!) And, [b]THE CORRAL WON[/b] for most number of participants - way to go guys! Can't wait for next year (hint, hint)!!!next year (hint, hint)!!!jay